Women Pastors and Evangelists

Since early history we have lived wih a patriarchial society. This page is in keeping with the previous page regarding famous women of the Bible, so before becoming upset, read about these women of God.


Paul spoke of women being silent in the churches, and Peter also in essence said the same, so therefore it has been the established rule of many churches since.


Can  you  imagine  the uproar  that  would  have  been  created  in the male dominated world if women  who  were  basically  servants of men,  had  suddenly  been  the head of  church or leader of men?  All  christians  were trying  to  establish  the  early  church without being put to death, although  many  knew  they  would be killed.  That portion of the world had always been male dominated, probably for multi-reasons. I will list a few.


A. God told man and woman,  as well  as other living creatures to multiply  upon the earth.  God just may have chosen the woman to bear the children because  she was more sensitive  and very  possibly the  strongest  when  it came to stress. Today many branches of science agree,  therefore it may  always have been  so.  Life  was  extremely hard  in  those days  and  it  took   tenderness,  wisdom  and  strength  to raise a child,  just as it does today.   If  the  woman had been  worrying about the church,  how  could  she  have  done  all  the  many  duties  expected of  her.  If  God  created  the  earth  and  all  things  in it and he saw it was good (and He  does  not make mistakes) then woman was  designed  to be what she was and is.

       B.  There were women prophets, teachers, preachers in those days.  Read   the  previous  story  of  famous   women  of  the   Bible.   Haven't   you   ever   wondered why  Christ  never taught  women could not be leaders?  Have  you  ever wondered why no man except Christ was perfect,  yet man established rules that Christ did not teach? Christ said that  even the  laws were  fulfilled in his coming,  yet  man wishes to set rules he claims is God's law.  Are  these  remnants  a tendency of  the male  to rule, to conquer,  to dominate.   Look at  history  and  you  can't  help  but  notice  this  tendency  that  extends to the male animal that must also rule the pack;  i.e. the wolf, lion, etc.   We  know of  many  who  believe they must have  power and rules for  women and girls.   Why have women allowed this? Did they truly believe they were unworthy to be treated equal?  My  research  of  the  Bible  teaches   that  God   loves  all  who  love  Him, regardless of race or denomination or belief.  Therefore God loves the Muslims,  Buddhists,  etc. with equality.  Obviously we can't  all be right, so all will be judged for their actions and their heart. Read  the chapter on the Beatitudes at the end of this site.  So  always remember, God loves  all who love  Him and most of us will have a lot to learn at the end of this life, so be kind to one another. While you're thinking about it, why did God treat Sarah's son, Isaac, with blessings to continue through centuries, yet shun Ishmael? Was it not because Abraham took a mistress that Sarah allowed him to have to conceive a child since she was barren? According to scripture God had not sanctioned this. 

C.  Was Peter perfect and his decisions wise? Peter was the one Christ  chose to be the foundation of  His church,  but  certainly  Christ  knew   Peter  would  sleep  while  HE  grieved in the Garden Of Gethsemane and he would deny knowing Christ when the soldiers came to crucify his Lord.  Then it is obvious Christ was aware His church  would not be perfect, but Peter would sacrifice and give his all in repentance to  establish His  Church, but not with  perfection!  Paul was persecuting the  Christians  and many were put to death,  yet  Paul  repented  and  became  a  great  leader  and  a  mighty  force  for  Christ.  But surely you  don't accept  his  gospel  as  perfection.  Christ  never  said  any one's teaching would be perfect. Where in the old testament did God condemn or forbid women prophets or teachers? If God blessed a woman with a gift, it was accepted. Only man has changed this.

D.  Where  did  Peter or Paul  say  this  recommendation  of  women  being  silent  in  the churches was by commandment of God or Christ?  Then  it was their direction and tradition of the land. It  is  easy  to see why  there  would  not  have  been  lady apostles  traveling  with the  twelve.     Imagine  the  rumors  and  problems  associated  with  male and  female  disciples   following  Christ  and  sleeping  in  the same  proximity.    The   people  of  the  villages/cities would never accept  this as being of God.  Women  would also  find it difficult to drag the children  along.  Customs  were  kept  similar  to  the  standards  that  were of old, so I  don't think  Christ  would have  reached  the  masses if  He  had been breaking all traditions,  plus  teaching  that  men and women  could  travel  and sleep together in purity. Could we do that today? Why does man in that  same  region  today  try  to  silence the  women and  girls and  to  refuse  them  an education? Could it be that they are really weak and afraid? Are men this weak and insecure? These same men often beat their wives. Right!!!!! This is another act of the male species and domination. Even in America you find men in the work place, the military, in the home, who feel the man must rule often with the fist. Do you see many men who try to beat or pick on men much larger than themselves? Of course not! They are cowards and know they would be whipped senseless,  yet  they repeatedly  do this to their women. Men of God? I think not!!!!! No, God never taught this type of behavior, man invented it.  Remember the bully when you were in school?  Thats  what  these  men  are;   bullies and not to be admired by anyone. This goes as well for the female who has become aggressive and domineering. This type of woman feels she has the right (usually if she is larger than her husband) or in the workplace where she has power. The same mentality is displayed; lust for control! She is not to be admired just as the male is not. We must help women of the third world to stand up for thmselves  and  maybe through  generations the men can be educated.  If  not  women  will become warlike to survive; what type of world would that be, women who had forgotten how to be a mother, a tender wife. What type of evolving brain do we have? It appears we are not  growing in constructive behavior in many areas.

E. Bible  prophecy  states  that   in  the  latter  days, women and men alike will be prophets,  will  see  visions   (also a form of prophecy).    If  this  is  so,  then  why  do the church leaders state : "we are  living in the last days, etc.",  but  still  say,  "oh no,  we  can't   let women lead in our churches."  This again is a  state  of  allowing  the patriarchial society to continue, while God and His word take second place. If one says, how do  we know  God wishes this,  then why  don't we ask why God's prohecy is flawless,  yet  not acceptable if  this is latter days.


       F. Let's consider the Garden of Eden! Many refer to this event as the cause of the downfall of women. Was it not the evil serpent, which is referred to as 'he' the instigator? Then  when Eve succumbed,  was  it not  the  male who  had been  created (Adam), who succumbed? Then actually, Eve was in the middle of two males. This provacative thought is only for those who want to point the finger at Eve.

G. First and foremost; God was male (He is Father), Christ was male (He is Son), and God said all are created equal. Man is the author of most if not all acts of superiority. Statistics show us that male and female are equally unjust, unfair and evil. They just commit different types of crimes as a rule. There are many wonderful men and there are wonderful women, just  there are evil persons of both sexes.  Did you notice that each term for the female is a version of the male word, such as; Man - wo man, male - fe male, he - s he, he - he r even the word lady comes from lad whose meaning is son? Now who would construct these meanings?  Look in history regarding man having permission to spank their wives in the middle ages as long as he didn't injure her - whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who did man think he was except a supreme ruler and the one to mete out justice. Some men simply followed because they thought that was expected oif them, while others acting as he goats, battered the gentler males toward aggressive behavior. Where did you ever read that Christ sanctioned this type of behavior?

H. Man wants to forget that it was women who went to work in defense plants during WWll, and  furnished  the fighting men with supplies and kept things going at home.  What  would  the military have done without them?  When  our men came  home,  some men reared up and said women go back to being barefoot and pregnant. Did God say this;  I think not! Men  said women get out of the work force and let us be head of household and earn a living,  yet  many  men ran out and left their children to be totally dependent on their mothers.  Whoa!   I  should have  said dependent on mothers  until  some  of the women sat back on their butts and drew welfare. You can't have it both ways. To me it is obvious that both sexes have great faults and weaknesses.  I  watch  as  women  act  upon  jealousy and  become  whining,  vicious/malicious  cats  of   other women;  shame on you!   God  created  them  and  they  are what they are,  so  build  your own  esteem  and  gain  self-worth.  Stop  the pettiness and dry up! Now men, why do you laugh and make jokes at the gullibility  and naivete of women?  Because  it  speaks  well of  your ability to  deceive someone? Does  that make you proud of yourself? Shame on you!  Are  you a man who depends  on  your  wife  to work and bring in extra money and yet state   " I  am the man of the house and I rule?"  Think of these things and then consider where you fit in the bigger plan that God had when He made man. Did He not say; "I repent the day I made man?  " He  did  not  say woman,  but  I am  sure  He  was   referring  to  each  equally.    Also,  look  at  some  men who rap  their  coffee  cups  for  the wife  to  refill after she has worked all day!  Or he expects her to watch the kids when she is exhausted;  perhaps  draw  his  bath  water  or  prepare  his  shower. That sir, is no man, but a user and abuser.  Both  should be working side by side to raise their family and if the wife works, she should not be expected to be a maid and waitress for her husband. Neither should she expect her man to come home  and wait upon her  royal highness while  she  sits on her butt eating chocolates.  Equality means together we stand, united with God's help.

I. Women, be the best you can at whatever you want to do and remember, God created all equal!  As  we  watch our  women  in  other  lands such as Iran, and their struggle to find equality  in a  world that  has  been  horridly  controlled  by men,  don't  forget  that we in America  would  not  be  where  we are  today if not for a few  brave women in  early America,  who  dared to  bring  about  reform and  the  right  to vote.  This  is the  same controlled atmoshphere we created for the African Americans. Shame on those forefathers who tried to maintain a controlled dictatorship. Man made slaves, God never ordered that; again an act of "hardness of your hearts."

J.  Men lose respect for women who fall prey to their seduction and whines of "my wife doesn't understand me", or the young boy who pledges his undying love to his girlfriend and strongly urges her to "give herself to him." The female must learn to have respect for herself and not give in to these old, old wiles that have lasted through time. Women of the cloth have also been lured in.  Does  this make the woman guiltless? No, but it has made woman  become hardened and developing many traits of the male. Ask any woman who had to go into the work force even 50 - 60  years  ago  and you will  hear  story  after  story of women having to have sex with their boss to keep their job.   Men lose respect, but continue to use and abuse. Women keep listening, lose respect for  themselves and repeat their mistakes over and over.  If  I  had  to  find  the best possible advice to give to all women it would be; "Don't ever sell yourself, and learn to rely on Him." God will take care of you if you trust Him.  We lose our loved ones and see many suffer. This is earth  ( where  we  learn  lessons ) not  heaven.   There  is  another  chapter  coming  regarding expectation of perfection on earth. Why do you do this? Where would you get the idea that  God would allow man/woman to do as they wish on this earth  (to murder, steal, abuse, be dishonest) and yet be living in heaven. This is absurd. God created the angels and gave them the beauty of heaven to dwell in and greed set in. I think we must experience a little testing ground to see where our loyalty lies and teach our children there is  a  better  place  at  the  end  of  their  trial  period  on  earth. Men/women in the service don't expect, nor do they get a sergeant helping to make wussy, whimps out of their troops.  Then why would you expect God to?

        K.  How  many  men  who  are  supposed  to  be men-of-the-cloth,  have  molested  a child, committed adultery or other form of extreme violation of Gods instructions?  You are the epitome of evil; you certainly  don't exhibit  Christ's  teachings,  so why are  you there;  get out!    When  you  are  under control  of yourself and do no harm to another and live Christ's teaching, then you are capable of teaching, preaching or leading the church.  There  is  no  difference in the sin of the man or the woman or the weakness of the sexes,  sin  is an abomination to God,  and  that  person  is  not  capable  of leading  His  Church  in any manner.  Sin  is  an equal opportunity employer and not acceptable to God whether you be male or female, Greek, Jew, Catholic, Protestant, Mormon,or any other sect or  denomination. Therefore, women who want to set examples of leadership and capablities of evangelism,  pastorship  or  teaching,   be  sure  you  are  ready  to  make   the committment,  just as you expect the male to be.

L.  Major Thoughts.............
When some churches refer to women being silent as quoted by both Peter and Paul, are they also  keeping  the  other  traditions  and orders such as: "sell all that thou hast and follow me."  What  about  the  customs  that Christ adhered to such as clothing and the covering of head and shame to shave it,  and don't forget fasting and traditional holy days or other  temple  rites.  What  about  remembering to  keep the sabbath  holy.   We  have changed the original day. Then  we hear the same application of " oh, thats not important", huh? I could release a biragge of points but the point must be made!  Some  churches  and  people  make  their  own rules and change meanings to suit their own desire or use some reference as an order by Christ, then drop or state "it's unimportant" if  it  is not befitting their  own form of  religious construction.  One thing in particular stands out when  speaking  of  men  behaving  in an unacceptable manner while claiming to be following and teaching the words of Christ; Jesus  said  you  have already commited adultery when you look upon a woman with lust.   Let me  tell you  what  I  observe  when men are with other men or think they are alone; they gawk, drool and talk. And you are God's representative? The same rule applies to women who  get  their  cat-chats  going  and running  down their husbands.  Women  are  becoming  as immoral  in thought as men. Is this not the history of the world and it's destruction over and over; yet we never learn! The above example is just that; an example of men and women being equally imperfect. God knows this and was teaching man to get rid of the mote in his own eye before trying to cast the mote out of his brother's or sister's.

        M.  Ladies, remember; if God has called you to serve as a teacher, pastor or evangelist, He will also make a way. Be of good cheer and let your Lord lead you......
           
      Before you become upset at my belief, please remember it is extremism and  fanaticism that has caused terror and harm to many. God is not in that type of action!  This  is our  God given right of living in America, and I hold these privileges dear. No, I am not a minister and this was not the path that The Lord led me to, but many years of being a teacher, counselor and leader in my church has taught me much. I believe many women have been called and they should not falter, but press ever onward.

Why can't  you  as  a  minister  or  teacher  accept the fact that no one is personally favored and perfect in God's site, neither are they capable of understanding  nor  interpreting  His word  with  perfection,  so  quit   making  excuses.    I   certainly  don't   make   claims,  I  am  endeavoring to bring pertinent  points  to bear and for all to consider. Women go forth without fear and be the best you can of Christian leaders.


May God bless and be with all!   



May America's light
always shine........
May our churches  grow  in  spiritual
       wisdom   
God lead our      mothers.
God  help  us  raise
our children to be      good  examples.
God bless our
faithful men
God bless our
faithful  ladies
Lord give us faith
Lord give us
understanding
Pray for compassion
Help us to be humble
Teach us to respect 
    one another
God bless our
faithful men
God direct our leaders    

Lord give us    wisdom
Teach us to respect 
men and women equally
May we learn that we are not above Gods wisdom
May America's light
always shine........